Searching for ancestors

[josephfed]

Good morning,
I have been searching for information on my Polish ancestors for 4 years now and have been successful in finding 3 of the families in my lineage thanks to the wonderful people on this website who have made it possible. Now, I only have one more of my families to seach for and I was hoping someone could help me, free of charge, of course. The family I am search for is the family of my great grandfather Feliks Niesluchowski. The only information I have on Felix's family whereabouts comes from a German ship's manifest which list Felix's home as being from the town/village of Gnaty. Felix immigrated to America in 1907. He was also listed as being "single" and 24yrs of age. From documents I have on Felix, they showhim being born in September 1882 (Poland). On his death certificate, his parents are listed as Leon Niesluchowski and Mariam Marzewski (spelling)?. A couple of years ago, someone on this website located a birth certificate of a Felix born in 1883 to a Jan Niesluchowski but this was not my ancestor. I already located information on Felix's wife Marcela Damiecki who was from Marusy, Poland (he married Marcela in Glen Lyon, Pennsylvania) and I've learned that Felix was not from that area. With that being said, can someone help me with this difficult endevor or give me some advice on how to find what i am looking for? Thank you!

[Magroski49]

Good morning,
The family I am search for is the family of my great grandfather Feliks Niesluchowski.
The only information I have on Felix's family whereabouts comes from a German ship's manifest which list Felix's home as being from the town/village of Gnaty.
From documents I have on Felix, they showhim being born in September 1882 (Poland). On his death certificate, his parents are listed as Leon Niesluchowski and Mariam Marzewski (spelling)?. Thank you!

Joseph,

Though there are 5 places named Gnaty, I believe yours is located within gmina Winnica (Gnaty-Lewiski, Gnaty-Wiesniany and Gnaty-Szczerbaki).

There are some people named Niesluchowski there, though I could not find a birth for Felix in 1881, 1882, 1884 neither a marriage between Leon(ard?) and Maryanna back to 1875. You can check the records yourself in the following link (scanned images, in russian):
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/ar6-zs0085d

If you want to dig some parishes around Winnica, go to:
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/pow-273

Also, since Winnica is located within Pultusk county, you may want to check
the following parishes within AP (State Archive) in Pultusk. Since Winnica is just about 10 miles southwest of Pultusk, maybe you can find Felix's birth record in one of the villages between Pultusk and Winnica (check mapa.szukacz.pl):
http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/AP-Pultusk/

Gilberto

[josephfed]

Thank you Sir. I will follow your advice and see what i can find.

[pomponik]

Hi Joseph,

Here's a link to a map showing the parishes in the Plock Diocease which was made by one of our forum members, her name is Beata:

http://www.serock.pl/493-49ec6614ceb6d-15779-p_1.htm

If you click on any of the church icons a message appears showing where documents can be found for that particular parish. Winnica parish is coloured red (far right icon).

Regards, pomponik

[Magroski49]

Hi Joseph,

Here's a link to a map showing the parishes in the Plock Diocease which was made by one of our forum members, her name is Beata:

http://www.serock.pl/493-49ec6614ceb6d-15779-p_1.htm

If you click on any of the church icons a message appears showing where documents can be found for that particular parish. Winnica parish is coloured red (far right icon).

Regards, pomponik

Pomponik,

I have just visited that link and could not find any icons to a church or a map. Could you give me more details?

Thank you.

Gilberto

[josephfed]

I get an errow when I click on that link. I tried it using Google Chrome and Internet Explorer. Any advice? Here it is. See error code in the middle of the URL. http://www.serock.pl/error404.html?url= ... 79-p_1.htm

[pomponik]

Hi Joseph,

I apologise for my mistake, i selected the web page but forgot to copy it so i gave you the last link i had used for my family research. Here is the link i should have given you:

http://www.beata.kgb.pl/d_plocka/index.html

Regards, pomponik

[Sroczyński_Włodzimierz]

przepraszam, błąd, nie ten watek
kasuję poprzednią wypowiedź

[Milena_Urszula_Frączak]

Hello Joseph,

I think You should contact Mrs. Elżbieta Pawłowska-Ledke (http://genealodzy.pl/user.php?op=userin ... &uid=15919) - her ancestors are from Gnaty and Winnica. She has people named Niesłuchowski in her family tree as well.
Her MyHeritage site: http://www.myheritage.pl/site-118338651 ... n-web-site
Maybe You'll find some common ancestors

[Tadeusz_Wysocki]

Joseph,

We highly apperciate all your efforts to fully uncover your family Polish rooots, this is the next information for you, this time from the present-day Poland:
I. In one of the Gnaty located in the central Masovia province is still living family Niesluchowski, here is the record from the Polish census:
Eugeniusz Niesluchowski & family Niesluchowski
Gnaty-Wiesniany
Poland
Thus, this would confirm the Gnaty-Wiesniany giving by our forum best friend Gilberto from Paraiba-Brazil, Gil - greetings!!
With a higher or lower possibility this would be your close or distant relatives still living on the same place and land of your GGpa Feliks Niesluchowski's birth and beloved childhood, I wish you to find the relatives in Poland and maybe to visit them in future, do you want to have their postal address? If yes I could call them and ask their home address, and contact approval

II. Some additional historical info basing just on the surname Niesluchowski and place Gnaty:
Worth to note in your Family History Book this very old Polish surname Niesluchowski (fully spelled in Polish as Niesłuchowski) has, as many Polish surnames, very rich cultural value and heritage - Prof. Kazimierz Rymut and Prof. Zofia Kaleta with Polish etymological sources confirm the surname was noted in Poland from 1440/1453, and derived from the place named Niesluchow old Poland, now located in our good neighbour Ukraine nearly Lviv-Lwow, where the family Niesluchowski's cradle might be estimated in old centuries. It is possible in the 19th century one Niesluchowski's branch was living in the Gnaty near Pultusk and Warsaw, now please find this info as a big supposition: In the 19th in this Gnaty they were as chlopi or drobna szlachta (peasants or small nobles), here you have the historical description of your family Gnaty in the end of the 19th century, your Gnaty counted then 10 homes, and 122 inhabitants, and one of this home would be of the family Niesluchowski, this source confirm also this Gnaty and area was of Polish small nobles:
http://www.wykop.pl/ramka/501325/slowni ... wianskich/
You can ready about Szlachta - Polish Small Nobles/Gentry on this webpage:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szlachta
Most families in the area lost their noble rights and roots and were substantially pauperized in the 19th century under Russia Empire rules and policy againts Polish culture and family heritage. Many families from the area decided to sell part land to send young members to America 3000 miles over the unknown water. You must do your utmost to locate the Polish family records from the 19th century and maybe earlier. Yes, their family parish and holly church was Winnica, and you can search also records with FHL/LDS microfilms that can be ordered by you from LDS centre in Salt Lake City, here are microfilms detailed numbers, they have years 1752-1911!:
https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fh ... eno=377380
Urodzen = Births
Malzenstw = Marriages
Zgonow = Deaths

Tad

PS. If you like this wonderful game of life imagination, here is the view of the church where with a high possibility your GGpa Feliks was baptized, and where all family attened the church every holy Sunday Mass:
http://www.diecezjaplocka.pl/index.php? ... e&p_id=162

[josephfed]

Tad,
Thank you very much for taking the time to educate me on the surname Niesluchowski and a part of my Polish heritage. Your letter surely lifted my spirits and hope on finding the last branch of my Polish ancestors. As I mentioned in my earlier pm, I recently located my Great Grand Mother, Marcela Damiecki’s family and my ancestors in Marusy, Poland. I also discovered that I have noble blood from Marcela’s Grandmother, Scholastica Maruszewska.

Back in 2009, I discovered my Feduniewicz Polish ancestors and thanks to the website, Ancestry.com, I located a cousin in Mlodowice in the district of Fredropol, Poland and my wife and I took a trip to Poland to meet my family. I was also taken to the town of Kalwaria Paclawska and Nowosiolki Dydynskie where both, my Feduniewicz and Krzyzanowski ancestors lived for centuries. I loved visiting Poland and look forward to another trip in the future. Now I have some work to find my Niesluchowski ancestors.

I want to thank this website for making my research successful, especially Małgorzata Siemianowska, who did the research and found my Damiecki ancestors! Her thoughtfulness will always be appreciated by me and my family! I hope to find someone like her in Winnica to help me.

Tad, I would be extremely grateful if you can get me the contact information on Eugeniusz Niesluchowski and pass along my email address. I will use google translate because I do not understand or know how to read and write in polish. I will also see how I can order the microfilm from LDS and see if I am successful in finding information. Thank you for your time and have a great day!

josephfed@cox.net

Pozdrawiam

Joe

[josephfed]

Gilberto,
Can you give me the link for searching parish records in Sonsk? Thank you

[przeski]

Our own research leaded us to Sonsk parish and to Niesluchowski surname.
Since it was new territory for us we asked people reserching Sonsk parish for help.
Elżbieta Pawłowska Ledke as always did help and contacted us with Marek Niesłuchowski. Remarkable researcher with a great knowledge of Niesluchowski genealogy. I can ask him to contact you if you wish so.
Dziękuje Staszku za link do tego wątku.

[josephfed]

That would be great but my Niesluchowski ancestors came from Gnaty, not Sonsk. My Damiecki and Maruszewska ancestors were from Marusy which falls under the Sonsk district. Do you think Marek could help me with researching the Gnaty area? I understand there are at least 5 places named Gnaty, I strongly believe my Niesluchowski ancestors lived within gmina Winnica district. (Gnaty-Lewiski, Gnaty-Wiesniany and Gnaty-Szczerbaki).

[przeski]

I strongly believe that your Niesluchowski line as other Niesluchowski lines sprang from Niesluchy, Sonsk parish. Marek Niesluchowski listed some of the lines living in the past outside Sonsk parish: Niesluchski-Gąsiorek from Morawy, Ciemniewko parish, Niesluchowski from Smosarz Dobki, Pałuki parish, Niesluchowski nickname Chrostek from Humięcin-koski, Łysakowo parish. He mentioned lines with specific nicknames living in the past in Sonsk parish and nearby: Bączki, -Dadźbogi, -Gałdy, -Cięcia, and line "from Marusy" (without nickname).
No doubt, sooner or later, you will search Sonsk parish looking for your Niesluchowski ancestors.
BTW - nicknames were necessary to differentiate so many lines and individuals of the same surname. They are not in use in modernity.