Surname Dylewski in Mir
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SubbotaAnton

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Surname Dylewski in Mir
Hello!
My ancestors with surname Дылевский (probably Dylewski) lived in Mir ( https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(osie ... iejskiego))
After the 1795 year, this city is into Russia. And I used "ревизские сказки" (listy kontrolne?) to know about people in this city, and found out, that Lavrentiy Dylewsky was born in 1760 and had 5 sons (here is profile https://www.geni.com/people/%D0%9B%D0%B ... 6227096681 )
My question is - are some documents about Mir before 1795 which is useful for me and contain surname and other data about person?
I used this search - http://www.geneszukacz.genealodzy.pl/in ... =pol&op=se
And found out a lot of Dylewski but I have no idea about "Tereny" for Mir.
I also used this service:
http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=mir
And found a lot of documents about Mir, but it's not about usual person.
Could you please help me with that search? What kind of documents exist before 1795? Where should I search it?
Best regards,
Anton
My ancestors with surname Дылевский (probably Dylewski) lived in Mir ( https://pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mir_(osie ... iejskiego))
After the 1795 year, this city is into Russia. And I used "ревизские сказки" (listy kontrolne?) to know about people in this city, and found out, that Lavrentiy Dylewsky was born in 1760 and had 5 sons (here is profile https://www.geni.com/people/%D0%9B%D0%B ... 6227096681 )
My question is - are some documents about Mir before 1795 which is useful for me and contain surname and other data about person?
I used this search - http://www.geneszukacz.genealodzy.pl/in ... =pol&op=se
And found out a lot of Dylewski but I have no idea about "Tereny" for Mir.
I also used this service:
http://www.szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=mir
And found a lot of documents about Mir, but it's not about usual person.
Could you please help me with that search? What kind of documents exist before 1795? Where should I search it?
Best regards,
Anton
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Arek_Bereza

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Surname Dylewski in Mir
Hello,
here you can find Mir https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
But I checked Dylewski in 1760 and didn`t find Wawrzyniec (Laurenty)
here you can find Mir https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
But I checked Dylewski in 1760 and didn`t find Wawrzyniec (Laurenty)
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SubbotaAnton

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Re: Surname Dylewski in Mir
At least in the 19th century, they were Orthodox, but I think it's impossible in 18the century, right?Arek_Bereza pisze:Hello,
here you can find Mir https://familysearch.org/search/catalog ... %20Library
But I checked Dylewski in 1760 and didn`t find Wawrzyniec (Laurenty)
Thanks for the link, I'll check. The date 1760 looks too rounded, I'll see another one.
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Arek_Bereza

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Re: Surname Dylewski in Mir
Orthodox ? That changes everything. Of course it was possible in 18th century. You can check catholic metrical books but I don`t think you will find your family.
First orthodox church in Mir was established in 1550. 1705-1824 it was a greek catholic church and after 1824 orthodox church.
First orthodox church in Mir was established in 1550. 1705-1824 it was a greek catholic church and after 1824 orthodox church.
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SubbotaAnton

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Decrypting
Could anyone please decrypt this one for me, and I believe after that I'll be possible to find names-surname by myself without help?

Just names - surnames - (patronymic?)

Just names - surnames - (patronymic?)
- Bialas_Malgorzata

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Decrypting
Mir, day the 10th, the rest as above, I baptize Elżbieta daughter of Józef Seszyński, soldier, and Katarzyna, Godparents Bonifacy? Rochbartski and Marianna Wislewszczanka
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SubbotaAnton

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Re: Decrypting
Could you say, please, except this catholic books, is it possibly to find something else for 18th centure? Like orthodox book in archive, census or like this?Bialas_Malgorzata pisze:Mir, day the 10th, the rest as above, I baptize Elżbieta daughter of Józef Seszyński, soldier, and Katarzyna, Godparents Bonifacy? Rochbartski and Marianna Wislewszczanka
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Rebell_Cieniewska_Grażyna

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Re: Decrypting
Chyba raczej Dominik Rochbarski i Marianna Wasilewiczanka.
W każdym razie tak to odczytuję.
Powodzenia Grażyna
W każdym razie tak to odczytuję.
Powodzenia Grażyna
Moje nazwiska - Rebell, Cieniewski, Oleśniewicz, Łojko, Piotrowski.
Moje miejscowości - Subkowy, Nowogródek (na Kresach), Berest/Piorunka, okolice Częstochowy, Palikije.
Moje miejscowości - Subkowy, Nowogródek (na Kresach), Berest/Piorunka, okolice Częstochowy, Palikije.
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SubbotaAnton

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Re: Surname Dylewski in Mir
I was wrong, they were catholic, according document of 1816 year. Also date 1760 is just hypothesis, it's based on birthday of his sons Gregory ~1783, Iliya ~1789, Ivan ~1795, Iosif ~1800 and Frantishka ~1808.Arek_Bereza pisze:Orthodox ? That changes everything. Of course it was possible in 18th century. You can check catholic metrical books but I don`t think you will find your family.
First orthodox church in Mir was established in 1550. 1705-1824 it was a greek catholic church and after 1824 orthodox church.
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SubbotaAnton

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DaszkiewiczSubbotaAnton pisze:Could anyone please tell me what is this surname on second line (starts with D)?
http://imgur.com/a/0J8bY
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SubbotaAnton

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Done!
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... at=1690200
1789 year, Mir

Because I'm trying to learn how to read it, I'll write how I understand it, but please correct my translation.
So,
Mir, Januarius 11. Ego idem, baptizari Infantem nme(=nomine?) Thomam Jilium (in 1816 it will be in Russian- Iliya), Jochimi(?) et Elisabethe Lew(???), Legitimorum (?), Levantes ? Fonte Mathias Hrynie(?) um Alexandra Bohuszewsha. Apirtentes Laurentius Dylewski eum Elisabetha Stas(?)li(?)zowa. Nicolaus Michlenia eum Catharina Czerniawska, Francis(?) (?)wski eum Marianna Dylewska.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... at=1690200
1789 year, Mir
Because I'm trying to learn how to read it, I'll write how I understand it, but please correct my translation.
So,
Mir, Januarius 11. Ego idem, baptizari Infantem nme(=nomine?) Thomam Jilium (in 1816 it will be in Russian- Iliya), Jochimi(?) et Elisabethe Lew(???), Legitimorum (?), Levantes ? Fonte Mathias Hrynie(?) um Alexandra Bohuszewsha. Apirtentes Laurentius Dylewski eum Elisabetha Stas(?)li(?)zowa. Nicolaus Michlenia eum Catharina Czerniawska, Francis(?) (?)wski eum Marianna Dylewska.
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baptisavi infantem nomine Thomam - filium (son) Johimi? at Elizabetha Lewkowicz, Legitimorum Conjugum
Elizabetha Staszkiewiczowa = Staszkiewicz + owa (Staszkiewicz's wife)
Nicolaus Michlewicz cum (with) Catharina Czerniawska, Franciscus Guzowski cum Marianna Dylewska
Try to find something like it in English
http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/ ... 573/page-3
or ask for corection here
http://genealodzy.pl/PNphpBB2-viewforum-f-43.phtml
Elizabetha Staszkiewiczowa = Staszkiewicz + owa (Staszkiewicz's wife)
Nicolaus Michlewicz cum (with) Catharina Czerniawska, Franciscus Guzowski cum Marianna Dylewska
Try to find something like it in English
http://latindiscussion.com/forum/latin/ ... 573/page-3
or ask for corection here
http://genealodzy.pl/PNphpBB2-viewforum-f-43.phtml
Krystyna
*** Szarlip, Zakępscy, Kowszewicz, Broczkowscy - tych nazwisk szukam.
*** Szarlip, Zakępscy, Kowszewicz, Broczkowscy - tych nazwisk szukam.