Mieczysław Wolski (1892)

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » pn 17 gru 2018, 19:06

Could someone please tell me something about Michał Nałkowski (Naukowski) and Zuzanna Hubryk from these two documents?

02.09.1810 (no. 2): wedding between Michał and Zuzanna
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... RoC0YyPhSQ

13.11.1823 (no. 566): death of Michał Nałkowski
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... naRI2XI8LQ

Where did they work, where did they live - the address (including parents)? Where was Michał born and where did he die? I think there are quite a lot of informations there that I don't understand.

Arek_Bereza · Post autor: **Arek_Bereza** » wt 18 gru 2018, 10:31

Act of marriage
13.09.1810
Michał Naukowski, age 26, bachelor, confectioner/pastry cook, accordin the metrics of parochia Olszyny village Sukmanie son of Józef and Jadwiga Sikorzak (they were probably alive), Michał lived in Lublin nr 69
Zuzanna Franciszka Hubry, born Końskowola age 16, daughter of Ludwik and Barbara (no surname), lived in Lublin nr 52, mother alive, father died.
Witnesses: Jakub Abramowicz age 49, address: Lublin nr 126, Tadeusz Klementy merchant from Lublin age 29, Lublin nr 47, Walenty Moraczewski salt store writer age 54, Lublin nr 50, Jan Piotrowicz age 29, Lublin nr 50 salt store controller.
Act of death
13.11.1823 Lublin
Witnesses Mikołaj Bojarski age 45 (lived Lublin nr 199), Józef Weber age 35, sacristan, (Lublin nr 110)
13.11 Michał Naukowski died, age 40, confectionery/ bakery owner, wife Zuzanna Hubryk, one son one daughter
One more information from lubgens indexes:
1826 Zuzanna married Jan Hryniewicz in Lublin

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » wt 18 gru 2018, 18:31

Thank you for the translation. Very interesting! Did the streets in Lublin have no names? Only numbers, like in villages? The information that Michał had only one son and a daughter is strange. I know that he had more children with Zuzanna. So if that's true, most of them must have died until 1823.

These are their children that I found:

1. Magdalena Anna Nałkowska (born: 22.07.1814 in Lublin, died: 02.11.1873 in Kielce) - that's my Anna that I was looking for I suppose
no 187: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... hbpOvVSiHw

2. Zuzanna Maryanna Nałkowska (born: 22.08.1816 in Lublin, died: 27.06.1823 in Lublin)
birth no 194: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... hbpOvVSiHw
death no 368: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... oPOzEBa5uw

3. Maryanna Nałkowska (born: 15.08.1818 in Lublin, died: unknown)
birth no 236: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... 95UyuukXow

4. Jan Kajetan Nałkowski (born: 1819 in Lublin, died: unknown)
birth no 302: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... sI2I_WcoFQ

5. Michał Dionizy Jan Nałkowski (born ~1820 in Lublin, died: 1871 in Lublin)
death no 419: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1859/0/2 ... dPogFQvpDA
I didn't find a birth record for him, he is also not in the index at lubgens. But I know that he was a son of them from this site: http://dawny.pl/waclaw-nalkowski/

So if it's true that 1823 there was only 1 son and 1 daugher, all children but no. 1 and 5 must have died. Can someone find their death records and the birth record of Michał Dionizy Jan Nałkowski?

EwaMolly · Post autor: **EwaMolly** » wt 18 gru 2018, 20:10

If they die before 1823, it should be pretty easy for you to find them. Of course if they were in Lublin in that time.
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/search?q=XDSTARTz:[*%20TO%201825]%20XDSTOPz:[1810%20TO%20*]%20XTYPEro:jedn%20XNRZESP:1858%20XCDNUMERU:%200%20XARCH:35

Arek_Bereza · Post autor: **Arek_Bereza** » śr 19 gru 2018, 10:00

You missed one

Jan Ignacy (index for Jan Ignacy Natkowski) - born 1812 Lublin Kolegiata
Marianna died 1819 Lublin Kolegiata
And one more, parents of Zuzanna Hubryk were Ludwik and Barbara Kicińska or Kuczyńska
use surname UBRYK (sic) to search at lubgens

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » śr 19 gru 2018, 17:14

Thank you. Now I still need to find the birth record of Michał Dionizy Jan Nałkowski. Is the index of Lublin Kolegiata and other churches of Lublin at lubgens complete? Because I don't find him there. If it's complete it makes no sense for me to search the scans.

Krystyna.waw · Post autor: **Krystyna.waw** » śr 19 gru 2018, 19:42

Wolski_M92 pisze:Is the index of Lublin Kolegiata and other churches of Lublin at lubgens complete?

All indexed records you can see here
Lublin Kolegiata
http://regestry.lubgens.eu/viewpage.php ... 52&par=131
Others from Lublin in left menu
And ask on Lublin forum - they know much more then is in indexes

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » śr 19 gru 2018, 20:20

Yes, that's a good idea to ask there about the Lublin region. I will do that.
If anyone knows links to sites where I can read scans of books from Końskowola from the 1790s and earlier, please tell me (didn't find it in szukajwarchiwach.pl).

Krystyna.waw · Post autor: **Krystyna.waw** » śr 19 gru 2018, 20:32

Have you seen it?
http://regestry.lubgens.eu/viewpage.php ... 052&par=79

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » śr 19 gru 2018, 20:49

Yes Krystyna, I've seen that page, but there are some informations missing, like the profession or sometimes the exact dates are missing. Or I don't understand some abbreviations yet, eg. the entry for Zuzanna Franciszka Hubryk (1794):

Miasto, 11 mar, O: Ludwik, M: Barbara, O chrz.: MD Joachim, M chrz: Zuzanna Hempel.

I know that O is father and M mother, "O/M chr" are the godparents. What means "11 mar" March 11th? Is it the birth date or baptism date? What means "Miasta"? Place? What does it mean in that context. And what means "MD"?

Or for Łukasz Hubryk (1798):

Końskowola 155, dn: 17 paź; ks: Tab.I s.12; rodz: Ludwik i Barbara Kicińska; chrz:.

What mean the red colored?

Krystyna.waw · Post autor: **Krystyna.waw** » czw 20 gru 2018, 17:03

ask in the source - lubgens forum

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » pt 21 gru 2018, 17:25

Would somone please tell me when and where Aniela (Angiela/Angela) was born and when and where baptised?
birth record no. 81: https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/50/357/0/-/ ... MSYUeWmy1Q
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/50/357/0/-/ ... NHzsz4jmOw

I'm reading the following dates but don't know what is what: 07.11. and 02.11.1819.

In her marriage act I read another birth place if I'm not wrong (no. 15):

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1647/0/2 ... FF3PNvsoAg
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1647/0/2 ... NqQlYqjaFQ

And would someone please also tell me the dates and places of birth and baptism of Teofil Jan Hubryk?

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/50/357/0/-/ ... hU-8i1qknA
https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/50/357/0/-/ ... 22zKJ7-JMQ

Thanks in advance!

Krystyna.waw · Post autor: **Krystyna.waw** » pt 21 gru 2018, 17:38

Miasto Płock in 81 B and 15 M act.
dates 07.11. and 02.11.1819 are correct.
You ask what was first - birth or babtisation?

Teofil Jan B 26.12 and B 20.12. Płock house/building no 277 (probably)

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » pt 21 gru 2018, 17:46

Thank you.

No I thought maybe one of the dates has another meaning. I read in the act of marriage that Aniela was born in Siostrzytów/Siestrzewitów. Am I wrong?

Here is another (no. 54):

Józef Paweł Hubryk

https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/50/357/0/-/ ... w4q8LfIBNA

I have the dates 22.03. and 25.03.1824, right? Baptism in Płock? And I read Warszawa. Is that the birth place of Józef Paweł?

Wolski_M92 · Post autor: **Wolski_M92** » sob 22 gru 2018, 17:46

Another question:

Please read this (no. 2): https://szukajwarchiwach.pl/35/1858/0/1 ... RoC0YyPhSQ

Am I understanding it right, that Jozef Naukowski (father of Michal Nalkowski) is living in the village Sukmanie near Olszyny? Or is he born there?