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RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: pn 23 lis 2020, 21:54
autor: Krysia18
Hi Balthasar!
Thank you for the information. I'm hoping this is my Teodor Kind. Would you be able to translate the metryki.genealodzy information in English for me? It would be appreciated!
Thank you.
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: pn 23 lis 2020, 22:22
autor: Balthasar70
Emma Kind nee Rothe marries Paul Kurt Alfred Büttner in Hindenburg 1934:
https://www.ancestry.de/imageviewer/col ... d=96294455
Balthasar70
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: wt 24 lis 2020, 11:03
autor: Balthasar70
Hi Krysia,
fund thing:
Bundesarchiv Berlin
Lastenausgleichsantrag
ZLA 1/14459026
Janowitz, Ida
Bestandsbezeichnung
Lastenausgleichsbehörden - Positiv beschiedene Feststellungsakten nach dem Feststellungsgesetz (FG) und Reparationsschädengesetz (RepG)
Aktenzeichen
484/J483
Geburtsdatum
14.11.1905
Geburtsname
Beschorner
Schaden
Betriebsvermögen
Schaden
Grundvermögen
Staat
Polen
Kreis
Litzmannstadt
Gemeinde
Litzmannstadt
Produzierendes Amt
Wilhelmshaven, Stadt
Unterlagenart
Sachakte
Benutzungsort
Bayreuth
Balthasar70
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 01:28
autor: Krysia18
Hi Balthasar,
Thank you for the Emma Rothe's marriage link; I'm trying to access it and get a translation. If Emma Rothe married my Teodor Kind (my grandfather), then I have relatives that don't know me and I don't know them. I would like to find them, if possible.
Also, I'm not sure what the second set of information is about Ida Janowicz. When using google translate, it mentions reparations. Is this correct? If so, for what?. Ida was my grandmother Pauline's sister.
Thanks for all your help!
Krysia
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 12:52
autor: Balthasar70
Hi Krysia,
my english is limited, but I try to translate the most important:
1. Marriage Kind/ Rothe
Location: Lodz, St. Johannis
Time: 27. aug./ 9. sept 1905, 5 o´clock p. m.
Witness: Stanislaw Koljacinski, worker, 33 years, lives in Lodz
Adolf Wagnitz, weaver, 24 years, lives in Baluty
Groom: Teodor Kind, bachelor, local worker, native-born Lodz, 20 years, parents August Kind (worker) and Rosina nee Kranich, evangelisch-lutherischer religion
Bride: Emma Rothe, virgin, local worker, native-born Konstantynow, 23 years,, parents Julius Rothe (weaver) and Augusta nee Birger/Bürger, evangelisch-lutherischer religion
side note: The marriage between Theodor Kind and Emma Rothe was dissolved by a final judgment of the Evangelical-Augsburg Consistorial Court in Warsaw on October 5, 1933 under the number 111. ... ???with guilt
of the husband as Impact of Art. 171 the case of the marriage??? ... ban on marriage for 6 years...???
Lodz, 10. July 1935
Balthasar70
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 13:24
autor: Krysia18
Thank you Balthasar. Yes this is my grandfather Teodor Kind! Wow I have more family out there....they don't know about me, I don't know them. Do you have an idea of how I can continue researching the Kind/Rothe/Buttner families -- to see if they had children? I don't see anything on geneteka. More mysteries to solve!
Your English is fine.....
Thanks,
Krysia
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 13:56
autor: Balthasar70
Hi Krysia,
we have to collect informations, for example
Paul Kurt Alfred Büttner, first marriage:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/co ... pId=263822
And by the way
after world war II in Wilhelmshaven Ida Janowitz had applied for compensation for damage to property in poland. Files you found under No. 484 / J483 in the archive in Bayreuth / Bavaria.
Balthasar70
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 14:14
autor: Krysia18
Thanks Balthasar. I can't access the ancestry link, if you can (whenever possible) I would appreciate it. Interesting about Ida applying for compensation.
I find all of this information fascinating and a mystery. Teodor Kind didn't marry my grandmother Pauline Beschorner, but they had a child....my father. Just found out not too long ago that Teodor was my grandfather....and he was married at the time my father was born (1920 in Lodz). Would like to find out more about the Kind/Rothe marriage, might have had children (my father's half brothers/sisters).
Boy....what a story! Krysia
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 15:42
autor: Balthasar70
Hi Krysia,
*1882 Emma Rothe in Konstantynow
https://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.p ... 340&y=1147
Until 1918 in Berlin Bergstr. (Berg-street) lived a Theodor Kind and left the town. He works as a house servant. See the adress-books:
https://digital.zlb.de/viewer/image/34115495_1918/1326/
https://digital.zlb.de/viewer/image/34115495_1919/1310/
Maybe a trace?!
If you want data from ancestry, send your mail address in a PM.
Balthasar70
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: śr 25 lis 2020, 18:25
autor: Krysia18
Bathasar,
Sent a PM
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: ndz 24 sty 2021, 19:06
autor: Krysia18
I am looking for assistance. I am interested in obtaining a Polish citizenship through my parents. They were both born in Poland, however, I do not have their birth certificates and they are deceased. My father was born in 1920, this year he would be 101 yrs old; my mother was born in 1924, 97. I believe I can only obtain a birth certificate on my dad. Where would I have to start?
Thanks much,
Krysia
Re: RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: ndz 24 sty 2021, 20:46
autor: Gazda
Krysia18 pisze:I am looking for assistance. I am interested in obtaining a Polish citizenship through my parents. They were both born in Poland, however, I do not have their birth certificates and they are deceased. My father was born in 1920, this year he would be 101 yrs old; my mother was born in 1924, 97. I believe I can only obtain a birth certificate on my dad. Where would I have to start?
Thanks much,
Krysia
Hi,
You can have both certificates as you are a close direct descendant (child-parents). I think to make it easier, find out where they were born, you can apply in this city for your parents cenrtificates. (I assume you can prove they were your parents

with your own certificate for example)
RE: Re: RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Ki
: pn 25 sty 2021, 15:46
autor: Krysia18
Thank you....I will give it a try.
RE: Re: Looking for Information on Teodor Kindler/Kind
: czw 17 lut 2022, 18:06
autor: Krysia18
My father, Bronislaw Alfred Berszoner/Beschorner was born on July 18, 1920 in Rokicie (Lodz?), Poland. mother named Pauline Beschorner/Beszorner. Does anyone know how/where I can obtain his birth certificate? Thanks much!