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[MonikaMaru]

Hello,

You read a Cyrillic alphabet excellently

49. Mariampol
1. Wiskitki 28.III./9.IV.1882 at 1 pm
2. Gotlieb Feldman and Ludwik Ja(h)n, 47 years old each of them, both owners from Mariampol
3. yesterday (8.IV.1882) at 4 am KAROLINA LUTZ nee Niemiec died in Mariampol, 37 years old, daughter of Karol and Maria nee Ja(h)n, she left widowed Jakub Lutz.

There is written - Jan, but in an earlier record was written correctly - Jahn.

regards,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Hello,

Looking for translation on the following marriage record - Lutz

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =1&x=0&y=4


as well the following birth record -93 - Lutz
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =1&x=0&y=0

I thank you in advance
Yvette

[MonikaMaru]

Hello,

18. Długokąty Colony
1. Place and date: Jeruzal Civil Register Office, 24.VI.1810
2. Groom : DAVID FRYDERYK LUTZ, 24 years old, son of Krzysztof Fryderyk Lutz and his wife Elżbieta Schaberin
3. Bride: KRYSTYNA ELŻBIETAA SCNEIDERIN, 17 years old, daughter of Jan Konrad Schneiderin and his wife Elżbieta nee Gnaugin? of colonists from Budy Długokąty
4. Banns: two banns published on the door of a Common House in Jeruzal
5. Verbal acceptance of parents and relatives of both sides
6. Witnesses: Mikołaj Greülich, 29 years, Jakub Szpaydel 50 years, Jakub Krimm 31 years and Jakub Schmidt, 42 years old, all colonists from Długokąty.

93. Michałów Colony
Place and date: Jeruzal Civil Register Office, on 15.IX.1822 at 11 am
Father of a child : David Lutz, a colonist, 34 years old, lived in Michałów
Mother of a child: Elżbieta nee Schnayderin , lawfull wife of above-mentioned , 28 years old
Child: male sex, born in a house of number 20 in Michałów, on 24.IX.1822 at 7 pm
Name of child: JAKUB FRYDERYK
Witnesses: Krzysztof Meysner, 33 years old and Michał Blut? 32 years old, both colonists from Michałów.

These records are made in a different form than a later established pattern of a record.

with regards,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Good Morning, Yes, I thought they both were both different. I thank you so much

Also the following marriage record for Lutz is in old format and looks very promising;

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =1&x=0&y=0

I thank you in advance
.Yvette

[mmoonniiaa]

Yvette,
There are two document, no. 27 and 28. I suppose you want to receive a translation of act no. 27, right?

Pozdrawiam,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Yes please

[mmoonniiaa]

Here you are:

27/1810 Jeruzal parish
place: Kolonia Długokąty

There are two announcements of this marriage in the first part.
date of 1st announcement: 28th October 1810, Sunday
date of 2nd announcement: 4th November 1810
groom: Jan Michał Lutz 26 years old, a son of Krzysztof Fryderyk Lutz and Klara nee Sztytnil?
bride: Anna Maria Kaut, 17 years old, a daughter of Marcin Kaut and Urszula nee Pyndor?

Then there is a marriage certificate.
date: 18th November 1810
groom - the same as above
bride - the same as above
witnesses: Jakub Schmitt, 40 years old, Stefan Schulz, 28 years old, Jerzy Göner, 26 years old, Dawid Lutz, 24 years old

Pozdrawiam,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Hello,

Looking for translation on the following record - Lutz Birth

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 116&y=1511

and #79 - Lutz birth
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 493&y=1993


I thank you in advance
Yvette

[mmoonniiaa]

Hi Yvette,

88/1808 Piaseczno parish
place: Kolonia Stara Iwiczna
date: 2nd February 1809, 9 a.m.
father: Jan Lutz, a colonist, 45 years old, lived in Stara Iwiczna
child: Jan Lutz, born on 29th January 1809 in house no. 4th in Kolonia Stara Iwiczna
mother: Anna Marianna Franciszka Reychowa - Reych (it is a surname of her first husband, the second one is Lutz), 34 years old
witnesses: Jan Lutz, a farmer, 23 years old, lived in Kolonia Stara Iwiczna and Maciej Humel, a colonist, 38 years old, lived in Stara Iwiczna
signed by father and both witnesses

79/1819 Jeruzal parish
place: Kolonia Austerdinge?
date: 9th December 8191, 11 a.m.
father: Dawid Lutz, a colonist, 32 years old, lived in Kolonia Austerdinge
child: Katarzyna Weronika Lutz, born on 8th December 1819 at 6 a.m. in house no. 12th in Kolonia Austerdinge
mother: Elżbieta nee Szwayder, 28 years old
witnesses: Krzysztof Meysner, 31 years old and Michał Klat?, 30 years old, both colonists lived in Kolonia Austerdinge

Pozdrawiam,
Monika

[MonikaMaru]

Hello,

I found something.

http://www.nowaiwiczna.com/historia-now ... 25,pl.html

A short excerpt from history of Iwiczna for you:

Iwiczna was settled by famielies of evang.- augsb. religion from Württemberg and Pfalz in 1801-1806 years. At first all religion ceremonies were celebrated in a Piaseczno catholic parish. Usually names of a new villiges were called as that one left in their homeland, but after 1820 a Congress Kingdom government turned them into polish names.

Families of colonists who came to Iwiczna:

From Pfaltz: Hansen Dettioff (+5 persons), Braun Caspar (+5), Albrecht Christian (+6), Lehr George (+ 8 ), Wagner Adam (+7), Meyer Caspar (+7), Zeh Johann (+ 8 ), Kóhler Michael (+2), Kuhn Yalentin (+3), Lutz Adam (+3), Schwarz Thomas (+3), Schwarz Emst (+2), Lutz Johann (+3), Meyer Georg Adam (+3), Gottiitt Johann (+3), Wetzel Peter (+4), Sinn Johann (+1), Unterzober Johann (+1), Scheffelmeyer Jacob (+3), Deychert Johann Nicolaus (+1) i Wagner Michael (+3).

From Württemberg: Mutschler Friedrich (+5 osób), Fischer Schulhalter (+3), Pfeifle Johann George, Birkicher Gottfried (+6), Meble Friedrich (+4), Lange Benedict (+5), Hauser Jacob (+2), Haberer George (+5), Klein George (+4), Leibbrand Jonathan (+9), Schilling Johann (+4), Schwarz Jacob (+6), Tallmann Johann Peter (+6), Herb Friedrich (+2), Schmidt Friedrich (+6), Frankę Andreas (+5), Eisele Matthias (+7), Gottiitt Johann (+3), Kóhler Jacob (+2) oraz HummelPeter(+7).
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88. Stara Iwiczna (Old Iwiczna ) Colony
1. Piaseczno, 2.II.1809 at 9 am
2. Jan Lutz, a colonist from Stara Iwiczna, 45 years old
3. male child born in Stara Iwiczna in a house no 4 on 29.I.1809
4. lawfull wife Anna Marianna Franciszka Reychowa (I do not know - nee Reych or primo voto Reychowa) secundo voto Lutz, 34 years old
6. JAN
6. Witnesses: Jan Lutz, 23 years old, tiller and Maciej Hummel 38 years old, colonist, both from Stara Iwiczna.
The father and witnesses are well-known to the undersigned Civil Register officer.

79. Aufterdinge Colony
1. Jeruzal 9.XII.1819 at 11 am
2. Dawid Lutz, colonist from Aufterdinge Colony, 32 years old
3. female child born in a house under no 20 on 8.XII.1819 at 6 am
4. lawfull wife Elżbieta nee Sznayder, 28 years old
5. KATARZYNA WERONIKA
6. Witnesses: Krzysztof Keysner 31 years old and Michał Klata 30 years old, colonists from Aufterdinge

The name of Aufterdinge is very similar to a place named Ofterdingen in Badden-Württemberg. May be they came from there?

regards,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Hello,

This is most interesting, and exactly what I have been looking for. Last night I had printed out a timeline which includes all of the Lutz records we have found thus far and in that i was attempting to organize the "Colony" names in order to pin down the possible origin of my Lutz family(s)

Your direction above is most helpful and very exciting to see "Lutz" specifically on the lists.

Now comes the bigger task to get to those Names on the Lists. We are so close Monika !! Record 88 above is still hard to place in what I have for so many Lutz names started with "Jan" which ended up as "Jan Michal" for instance.

Second record is very good, it is a perfect hit in line with what I have established thus far.

Overview;

Krzysztof Fryderyk Lutz - Elzbieta (Klara) Schaberin (from unknown)

sons David Lutz - Jan Michal Lutz - (Aufterdinge)

Jan Michal Lutz -Anna Maria Kaut (Dlugokaty)

Jakub Lutz - Rosyna (Rosalia Ewa) Lechelt (Michalów)

Michal (Michael) Jakub Lutz - Paulina Emilia Lechelt (Michalów and Wiskitki)

I have still work to do, for Wiskitki is missing data from 1870-1880 and I would like to find more births on the brothers David and Jan Michal to confirm their origins as well.

So it appears that our Lutz might be German - Which is something we have never known - It really feels rewarding to take these old records and bring to "Life" lives past. I could not do this without you.

A birth for translation - early colony - Lutz #115

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =222&y=573

Also death record #59 - Might be mother to Jan Michal and David - Krystyna

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =230&y=625

and later record for Lutz - #61

http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/ ... 59-062.jpg



sincerely
Yvette

[MonikaMaru]

Hello,

115. Offterdingen Colony
1. Jeruzal, 22.XII.1810 at 9 am
2. Dawid Fryderyk Lutz, 24 years old, colonist
3. male child, born in a house no 20 on 19.XII.1810 at 9 pm
4. lawfull wife Elżbieta nee Schneiderinn, 18 years old
5. ADAM SAMUEL
6. Witnesses: Samuel Mössner 50 years old and Adam Hammer 45 years old, colonists from Budy

59. Michałów
1. Jeruzal, 10.VIII.1827 at 11 am
2. Krystian Lut, a husband of the deceased, 21 years old and Dawid Hauzer 40 years old, a neighbour, both from Michałów
3. on 9.VIII.1827 at 2 am KRYSTYNA LUTOWA (Lutowa means wife of Lut) nee Tauzer? died, 19 years old, she left her husband and son Jan

A birth record of Jan Lutz - 116/1826 and a marriage record of his parents 1/1826 in Jeruzal parish.

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryki.ph ... =1826&kt=2

61.
1. Żyrardów, 21.VII./3.VIII.1912 at 10 am
2. Jan Lutz, a tiller from Karolinów and Ferdynand Lutz, 44 years old, a worker from Żyrardów
3. yesterday (2.VIII.1912) at 10 am ANNA LUTZ died in Karolinów, 3 weeks old, born and lived in Żyrardów, daughter of above-mentioned Jan Lutz and Julianna nee Sass.

Pozdrawiam,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Hello

Could David's children be born in same place just spelled differently?

ADAM SAMUEL - Born 1810 - Offterdingen Colony
Katarzyna Weronika - Born 1819 - Aufterdinge Colony

Sound wise they would appear to be the same

and for translation please for Lutz marriage - #1

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 1986&y=534

The following record from Annex looks good also - Has Lutz & Lechelt in same record.

http://poczekalnia.genealodzy.pl/pliki/ ... sy/006.jpg


again, I thank you so much

Pozdrawiam,
Yvette

[MonikaMaru]

Hello,

I am sure it was the same place. Many colonists were illiterate and they often spoke broken Polish or indistinctly. Names of villiges and of persons many times were spelled differently in a lot of other records because an officer/priest wrote down what he had heard. Usually I keep names how they were written.

I do not know well enough but it looks that Ofterdingen was named in Polish - Budy (may be it was Michałów Budy or Budy-Michałów). Budy means - something as sheds, shanties or huts.

1. Budy - Michałów
1. Jeruzal, 22.I.1826 at 8 am
2. Daniel Hauser 40 years old and Krzysztof Mesner 37 years old, colonists from colony of Michałów, not relatives
3. JAN LUTZ, a bachelor, a clothier, born and lived in Colony of Michałów, son of Stefan (Stephan) and Katarzyna nee Blenschin? both lived in Michałów, 20 years old
4. KRYSTYNA FAUSER, maiden, daughter of Jan and Anna, farmers from colony of Michałów, born in colony of Michałów and there lived with her parents, 18 years old,
5. three banns
6. verbal acceptance of parents of both sides
on a margine: no objections to contract a marriage and no antenuptial agreement

Province of Warszawa
District of Rawa
Evang.-augsb. parish in Rawa
Copy attested
(to marriage record no 3)

1. Rawa, 24.II.1835 at 1:30 pm
2. Gotlieb Sass, a farmer from Michałów, 39 years old
3. Mathias Matthes, 29 years old and Adam Lutz, 24 years old, both workmen from Michałów
4. male, born in Michałów on 18.I.1835 at 10 pm
5. lawfull wife Anna Rozyna nee Zerb, 24 years old
6. WILHELM GOTLIEB
7. Gotlieb Marquandt, a bachelor from Karolinów and Anna Rozyna Loechelt, maiden from Długokąty
Delay in making-up the birth record because of a long way to a parish.

According to the law a dead-line was 8 days from a birth.

regards,
Monika

[Mickelow]

Dzień dobry, Monika,

I very much appreciate translations as written. In order to find those hard to find records that are hidden due to incorrect spellings, you have to learn the variations of how things are spelled or might sound. Without learning these, certain records might get lost and never found.

First record above still does not fit in my family line, but it is still a keeper for it suggest (hints) that my parent couple Lutz, " Krzysztof Fryderyk and Elzbieta (Klara) Schaberin" might have had yet another son "Jan" to add to David and Jan Michal.

I am missing the marriage of Jakub lutz and Rosyna (Rosalia Ewa) Lechelt and the second record helps in that we now learn she was a maiden in Feb 1835, she was from Długokąty, and last their son Michal (Michael) Jakub Lutz was born in 1837 so the marriage was likely 1835-1836.

I will go back to Jeruzal and Wiskitk anexes and search for the elusive Marriage record of Jakub and Rosyna

Pozdrawiam,
Yvette

After searching Jeruzal again, I did not find the marriage there, but I did find this death record which might be helpful, #59 (reads Lut but you never know)

http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 221&y=1767

thank you
yvette