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Help for reading metriky
: śr 05 sie 2015, 00:23
autor: barouka
Hello, I just find the birth certificate of my great-great grandmother (Agnieska Lor, in Klonowa, 1840, n° 36).
Could someone please give me the names, dates and place appearing on this birth certificate. Thanks a lot.
Barouka
Help for reading metriky
: śr 05 sie 2015, 01:38
autor: PabianAus
Which Klonowa are you looking at ?
If I look at Klonowa (near Sieardz) in woj. Lodzkie for births in 1840 (
http://geneteka.genealodzy.pl/index.php ... t&lang=pol) then record #36 is for Zofia Głuch. Please provide the link to the actual record that you want translated.
Tom W
Help for reading metriky
: śr 05 sie 2015, 08:59
autor: szwiling
1840 birth certificate No 36 from Klonowa is not for Agnieszka Lor. The childs name is Zofia Głuch. I think you have misred the name of the witness which is Franciszek Lor.
RE: Help for reading metriky
: śr 05 sie 2015, 11:32
autor: barouka
Thank you for yr answers
Yes, it's a mistake but it is difficult for me to read polish and find the right metriky.
Barouka
: śr 05 sie 2015, 13:44
autor: PabianAus
There is an Agnieszka LAUR/LOR born in Klonowa (in the nearby village of Pustkowie Laury, in house #2) on 10 January 1832 at 6 a.m.
Birth certificate #7.
Father was Wawrzyniec (age 30). Mother was Julianna Świętek (age 30).
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 333&y=2074
: śr 05 sie 2015, 15:05
autor: barouka
On Agnieska's daugther birth certificate n° 64(Antonina Jamroza), Agnieska was 33 years old at the birth. So I think that Agnieska was born about 1840. What do you think?
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 368&y=1257
: śr 05 sie 2015, 16:02
autor: RoRo500
If the person that interests you is the mother of Antonina Jamroza, you may want to start with her marriage record to Wojciech. It is located in Klonowa marriages from 1867, entry #13. She was a widow at that time (after Wojciech Trela). Her age is listed as 30 (i.e. born ~1837). Parents - Wawrzyniec Lor and Marianna nee Świątek. Born in Pustkowie Lory.
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 1955&y=276
Hope it helps,
Roman
: śr 05 sie 2015, 16:18
autor: michal72
Roman and @PabianAus are right
Here you are the first marriage certificate (#15 1854) (with Wojciech Trela)
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... =238&y=217
Agnieszka Ler age 26. Father - Wawrzyniec, Mother - Julianna
Wojciech Trela - widower age 54, Father - Maciej, Mother - Justyna (mn Cieśla)
: śr 05 sie 2015, 17:26
autor: barouka
Thank you all for yr help.
I have to analyse this information, it's a little difficult for me but I think I will need still yr help.
Barouka.
: czw 06 sie 2015, 11:18
autor: barouka
All the information were very helpful for me.
I found a birth certificate for Wojcieh Ambrozy #41
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 1994&y=810
Could someone give me names, place, date appearing on this certificate, especially name of mother (is it Sowizdrzal, Szubowna or Lugowska.).
Thanks a lot.
Barouka
: czw 06 sie 2015, 11:37
autor: Sofeicz
Mother of this child was Salomea Woyłurkówna/Wojłarkowa
: czw 06 sie 2015, 11:46
autor: Pajak_Barbara
Place: Klonowa
Date: 5th (17th) april 1842
Father: Michał Ambroży (28 y. o.) living in Pustkowie Ambroży (sth like Ambroża's Boondocks/Wilderness)
Witness: Paweł Ambroży (30) and Franciszek Ambroży (30) living in Pustkowie Ambroży
Date of birth: 2nd (14th) month and yeas as above, at 2 P. M.
Place of birth: Pustkowie Ambroży
Mother: Salomea Woytaskówna (it means: Woytas's daughter, modern spelling may be Wojtas, but it's just mine suggestion), 23 y. o., his spouse.
Baptised: Wojciech
Godparents: Grzegorz Ma?ial?ki and Maryanna (Marianna?) Ługowska
Sofeicz pisze:Mother of this child was Salomea Woyłurkówna/Wojłarkowa
I am sorry, but this seems to be wrong. Please chceck the shapes of the "A" and "Ł" letter in the line under mother's name, in the word "małżonki".
: czw 06 sie 2015, 13:00
autor: Sofeicz
I am sure that this is letter "Ł"
See the world "odbyłem" (2 line under). Letter "T" has different shape.
: czw 06 sie 2015, 16:11
autor: RoRo500
I do not think one can be sure either way. The priest did not carefully distinguish between the letters t and ł. Details like that may be the least of Barouka's problems. If you look at the records of other children of this couple from Klonowa, they seem to have the mother listed under a different family name in each of them.
Good luck figuring that out,
Roman
: czw 06 sie 2015, 23:11
autor: barouka
Hello, here is Wojchiek Jamroza marriage certificate (1867 #13)
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... 1685&y=153
What's appearing about her mother's name? Is it the same name that appearing in his birth certificate (1842 #41) ?
http://metryki.genealodzy.pl/metryka.ph ... x=1332&y=0
Thanks a lot for yr help.
Barouka