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Help in searching record indexes (part 2)

: pt 13 sty 2017, 16:16
autor: os2hugh
Hello My dear Genealodzy friends,

Here is another set of indexes covering the years 1886-1894 looking for Szymkiewicz children, specifically children of Adolf and Jozefa (Fronckiewicz) Szymkiewicz. These are for the villages of Mejszagola and Kernave.

Mejszagola:

1886:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 8J1P?i=975

1887:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... B-B?mode=g

1888:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7-H?mode=g

1889:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... L-S?i=1029

1890:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Z-F?mode=g

1891:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Z-M?mode=g

1892:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Z-F?mode=g

1893:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... C-H?mode=g

1894:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... B-1?mode=g

[b]Kiernow[/b]

1886:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 75H-5?i=10

1887:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 1-4?mode=g

1888:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... QB-J?i=670

1889:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... D-K?mode=g

1890:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 9-B?mode=g

1891:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 477-K?i=29

1892:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... M-9?mode=g

1893:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... M-G?mode=g

1894:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... K-4?mode=g

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Again many thanks to those who have the time to look at the indexes.

Warm Regards,

Hugh

: pt 13 sty 2017, 17:24
autor: Krystyna.waw
Hugh, dont't you think it would be much easier if you write proper link to letter SZ (Ш)?
Szymkiewicz = Шымкевич

For example 1887:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=345
1988
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=567

: pt 13 sty 2017, 18:48
autor: os2hugh
Krystyna,

You are correct this was a lazy oversight on my part, and it would save the folks here a lot of grief in having to click through pages. I will have to do this in future inquiries.

My recognition of Russian cursive is so bad that this help has to be requested. I am working on my Russian handwriting but still am way off.

Hugh

: pt 13 sty 2017, 18:57
autor: Krystyna.waw
Russian alphabet is my nightmare too, but I learned to recognize "my" surnames.
Try to look for image Шымкевич. Not letters but the picture.
It will help :)

: pt 13 sty 2017, 19:00
autor: os2hugh
thanks one thing I noticed about the surname Szymkiewicz is there is no tail on any on the letters that hang down like a "y" of "g" in the latin alphabet.

We'll see what happens when I skim through.


Hugh

: pt 13 sty 2017, 19:02
autor: Krystyna.waw
Keep it up!

: pt 13 sty 2017, 19:51
autor: Bialas_Malgorzata
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... W4-K?i=416
birth certificate 65
13 maja 1890
Mejszagoła
Stanisław son of Adolf Szynkiewicz (is so written not Szymkiewicz) and Józefa nee Frąckiewicz

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=764
birth certificate 77
21.04.1893
Tekla daughter of Adolf and Józefa, godfather Tomasz Korejwo

M.

: pt 13 sty 2017, 21:32
autor: os2hugh
Thanks Mal,


You have proven yet again how indispensable you truly are! That would seem to fill in some of the holes. No Zofia though?? Perhaps Tekla was a Zofia as she is close to the age on census records.


Now I will just get the full translation and see what it show for the village they were born in.


Warm Regards,

Hugh

: sob 14 sty 2017, 12:34
autor: Bialas_Malgorzata
Here is also Zofia
8.11.1887 birth certificate 205
Mejszagoła
Daughter of Adolf and Józefa nee Frąckiewicz
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=335

Thank you

: sob 14 sty 2017, 19:38
autor: os2hugh
Thanks again Malgorzata,


It makes sense Zofia was born in 1887 (making her 2nd oldest) as on the American censuses she is listed as the eldest daughter still living with her parents. The ages weren't exact on the US Census (It had Zofia born in 1890 and Stanislaw born in 1892).

It seems likely that Tekla died very young, as she never moved to America with her family. Adolf came to US in 1906 and Jozefa and the children: Stanislaw, Bronislaw, Marianna and Julia in 1908.

Zofia came with an uncle in a date I don't recall (have to find document). So Tekla most likely died in one of three parishes (Mejszagola, Kozakiszki, or Nowe Troki)

Thanks again with this the children of Adolf and Jozefa seems complete.

Hugh

A last potential child not found in registers

: ndz 15 sty 2017, 21:45
autor: os2hugh
Malgorzata and my other Polish origins friends,

As I have said in the previous post this seems to prove that with all the records that Adolf and Jozefa Szymkiewicz had 7 children all of which have been found their birth certificates.

However the 1910 US census mentions that Jozefa was mother of 8 children and at the time in 1910 6 were alive. Tekla who was born in 1893 is one of them, however that means one remains who born and died before the 1910 census.

Thanks to the help of Malgorzata and others here's the picture

Weronika b. 1 Mar 1885 Kozakiszki
Zofia b. 1 Nov 1887 Mejszagola
Stanislaw b. 2 May 1890, Mejszagola
Teklab. 20 Apr 1893, Mejszagola. d. likely young not on 1908 manifest.
Bronislaw b. 9 Dec 1895 Kozakiszki
Marianna b. 3 July 1898 ,Jewie
Julia b. 29 Aug 1901 , Nowe Troki

It is possible that the 8th was born in America and died here very young and would to have been born after Jozefa's 27 Feb 1908 arrival in USA. I am thinking it more probable that the 8th child was in the Wilno area.

The only gaps between births that another child could be born are probably 1886, 1888, 1891-1892, 1894, 1896-97, 1899-91 and 1902-1907.

I have already posted the Mejszagola registers for the period 1886-1894, and previous researchers have checked:

Nowe Troki: 1887-1903
Jewie: 1887-1903
Kozakiszki: 1887-1904

So I am asking anyone who can help to skan the birth indexes for these few years for the missing 8th Szymkiewicz child.

Nowe Troki:

1904:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7XH?mode=g

1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 6-B?mode=g

1906:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... BLJ?mode=g

Jewie

1904:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... SKM?mode=g

1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 9Q5?mode=g

1906: "S" index in Lithuanian. Don't know spelling in Lthuanian?
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... J-H?mode=g

Kozakiszki

1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... QZ2?mode=g

1906:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... R-Q?mode=g


The other birth could have been in Mejszagola or somewhere else but the family listed as living in Jewie when they immigrated.

Thanks to those that can help.

Hugh

A last potential child not found in registers

: pn 16 sty 2017, 12:49
autor: Bialas_Malgorzata
Only in Nowe Troki was something

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=915
born Michalina 17.10.1904
daughter of Adolf son of Konstanty? and Józefa Frąckiewicz

M. look also other your older posts - I have translated 2 others post

: pn 16 sty 2017, 17:59
autor: os2hugh
That Malgorzata, officially takes care of the Szymkiewicz family, well at least Adolf and his children. I think over the next few days I will check to find Tekla and Michalina's death records as I am certain they passed before 1908 they will most certainly be in the villages already searched.

Many thanks again :-)


Hugh

Death indexes

: wt 17 sty 2017, 06:32
autor: os2hugh
For Malgorzata or any other Russian capable readers,


As I said previously in this thread I am now searching the registers for the deaths of Szymkiewicz' particularly Tekla and Michalina and also potentially the parents of Adolf Szymkiewicz: Konstanty (b. 1826) and Julia nee Dowiat (b. 1833)

I have decided the best place to start would be from the 1908 immigration year backwards.

Jewie

1908:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... M-X?mode=g

1907:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... H-2?mode=g

1906:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Z-F?mode=g

1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7KY?mode=g

1904:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... SZH?mode=g

1903:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Q-F?mode=g

1902:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... Q3G?mode=g

1901:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... K-V?mode=g

1900:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 9-V?mode=g

1899:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... S-D?mode=g

1898:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... NCP?mode=g


Nowe Troki

1908:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... T-H?mode=g

1907:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7-7?mode=g

1906:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... D-1?mode=g

1905:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 2-7?mode=g

1904:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7Z2?mode=g

1903:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... 7W1?mode=g

1902:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... WVF?mode=g

1901:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... S-P?mode=g

1900:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... J4-Y?i=756

1899:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... VGY?mode=g

1898:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... NKY?mode=g


Thanks again to those who can help.

Warm regards,

Hugh

Death indexes

: wt 17 sty 2017, 12:16
autor: Bialas_Malgorzata
There was something in parish Nowe Troki only

1906/75 Szynkowiczowa Teresa

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=864
number 13 demise of Katarzyna Szymkiewicz 13.01.1903 daughter of Jan's daughter Anna

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1 ... de=g&i=743
number 93 demise of Petronela Szymkiewicz 26.05. 1901 age 55 wife of Ignacy, son Wincenty and daughter Ewa