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Hi,

I'm trying to figure out if the man in these marriage records is the same. Would someone be so kind to translate them for me? They should be for Roch Kowalczyk from Bagienice.

#7
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=401588
#9
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903 ... cat=548021

It looks like the Latin record has the same parents names but I'm not quite sure.

Many thanks,
Carolyn

# 7; village: Bagienice
15 February 1802
Groom: industrious Roch, bachelor, 26 years old, son of late Marcin and Marianna Kowalczyk (lawful spouses).
Bride: Rozalia, maiden, 17 years old, daughter of late Szymon and Marianna Krawczak (lawful spouses).
Witnesses: Michał Nadbielny, Walenty Roziecki and others.

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# 9; village: Bagienice
21 November 1813
Groom: peasant Roch Kowalczyk, widower, 40 years old, living in Bagienice on his farm, son of late Marcin Kowalczyk and Katarzyna née Kięszczyk [?].
Bride: Elżbieta Stańczak, 24 years old, living in Bagienice as a servant, daughter of Sebastian Stańczak (living in Niesułów [?] as a day-labourer) and Franciszka.
Witnesses: peasants Jakub Walędziak, 44 years old; Jakub Krawczak 30 years old (groom's brothers-in-law, living in Bagienice on their farms); Paweł Sęk, 31 years old; Piotr Mroczek, 40 years old (bride's neighbours, living in Bagienice on their farms).

Hi Andrzej,

Safe to assume these are the same Roch Kowalczyk? Jacob Krawczak, named as witness and brother in law, was Rozalia's brother! I have his birth record with confirmed parents! Rozalia dies 1 September 1813, so Roch remarrying with small kids so quickly makes sense, yes?

Thank you so much - this is a breakthrough in my tree if you think it's right!
Regards,
Carolyn

challinan pisze:Safe to assume these are the same Roch Kowalczyk? Jacob Krawczak, named as witness and brother in law, was Rozalia's brother! I have his birth record with confirmed parents! Rozalia dies 1 September 1813, so Roch remarrying with small kids so quickly makes sense, yes?

Yes, I think so too (despite the fact that there's a difference between these 2 documents regarding the name of Roch's mother: Marianna or Katarzyna; but it may be an error in the record).

So glad to hear you agree! I have combed the records and only found one Roch Kowalczyk birth record from 1773 on. This really helps solve a big mystery for me.

Regards,
Carolyn